How To Talk So Kids Will Listen - Useful Tips to Help You Parent Gently (Part 1)

I first read How to Talk so Kids Will Listen and Listen so Kids Will Talk a few years ago to help me parent my first child when I needed some gentle tools.  I found it really useful and helpful in my goal to parent my child gently. When my second child came along I meant to reread it, but of course life became even busier and I felt I didn’t really need to……until recently.

The last few months have been tough in our house, and you would not think my aim was to be a gentle parent. There were fights with our 6 year old DS, lots of upset and lots of shouting. He has turned from a happy go lucky child to one that gets easily upset, frustrated, angry - he wants everything his way and is very negative. As this seemed to happen out of the blue I was absolutely clueless as to how to deal with it. I was also a bit worried for a while, as it was such a huge change in character for him. In hindsight, this had been going on a lot longer than the last few months, but it had happened gradually and escalated over time so that his behaviour and mine were clashing almost constantly and everything was becoming a battle. 

Thankfully in one of the Facebook parenting groups* I am on, a Mum shared a link to a really helpful website that lists characteristics of different age groups. When I checked the characteristics of a 6 year old I was reassured that his behaviour was actually pretty normal for his age. 

That still left the issue, however, of how to actually respond to his behaviour in a gentler way than how we were currently reacting to it. I had found 'How to Talk...' really helpful with my DD so thought I would give it a try again. I had completely forgotten most of the content and so began re-reading it again.

Chapter 1 focuses on helping children to deal with their feelings. As the author’s note, parents don’t always accept our children’s feelings. When I began to note my own behaviour over a few days, I could see that I was indeed denying how my DS was feeling a huge amount of the time and this often led to him getting even more frustrated and angry. 

The book gives a few pointers as to what to do if your child is having strong emotions (see below). Both myself and my OH have been implementing these tips as much as we can and I have to say I am so happy with how well they are working.


The first time I tried them he had been playing with his Granny in Monkey Maze (an indoor play area in Cork).  When I came to pick him up he was trying to get a particular toy out of one of the machines there. You put money in and are guaranteed to get something. Everything he specifically wanted, however, was really hard to get and he accidentally managed to get a toy he didn't want and became really, really upset. Previously I would have dismissed his feelings by telling him that he did get a toy - and how lovely the toy he got was, or trying to explain to him that he had no hope of getting the toy he wanted. Or getting annoyed that he had been showered with treats that afternoon and now he was getting upset (after all we have done for him the voice in my head would continue). But this time I remembered the tips above.

I got down onto my knees so I was eye level with him and listened to him tell me how upset he was and held him as he cried. I then fed back to him that it seemed like he was very upset that he hadn’t managed to get the toy he wanted. He told me again how he really wanted the particular toy and got a bit more upset. I then tried to give him his wishes in fantasy and told him how cool it would be if the staff would let us borrow the machine and bring it home for the evening to give us more time with it, which would let us get the toy he wanted. Or if he could control the machine with his mind to let the lever come down exactly where he needed it to. I brought him over to the machine to see if we would be able to lift it (in case we could bring it home) and he thought this was hilarious. He then started fantasising about how he could get the toy out.  After a really short time with this type of dialog he was in much better form and laughing away with me. I couldn’t believe how well it worked. 

I have used these tools now regularly over the last few weeks and found them so beneficial. Our house has become a lot more peaceful as a result. I do find it hard to remember to use the techniques sometimes. Old habits die hard. Last week, for example, when he was telling me about a class he goes to and why he didn’t like it on this night, I completely forgot and denied his feelings (I started panicking that he would not want to go back again and we had paid for the term). He stormed off, slamming the door (seriously it's like living with a teenager at times),  and became really upset. I am after all only human and this is still a work in practise. It also does depend on how distracted or frazzled I am, but when I remember it is so much easier and he comes out of the upset a lot quicker than if I deny the feelings. Often denying leads to a huge escalation in the mood and leaves all of us in the house unhappy for the evening or afternoon afterwards. So there is a huge incentive to remember and follow the steps above. In the case above, I calmed down (rather than get cross that he had slammed the door - as I would usually have done), went and found him and then did the steps, and again it worked really well. He was able to tell me why he didn't like the class that week, I listened and we ended it with a hug.


I do find that I sometimes struggle to put words onto the feelings - it's not something that comes naturally to me. But I am hoping as I use the techniques more regularly that this will become easier.  There are lots of examples in the book as well as exercises you can do to help you get more experience in what to say which I have found very helpful. The chapter also addresses common questions or concerns parents may have such as - if I accept my child's feelings will it make me a permissive parent?

I hope this is something that you might find useful when dealing with your children when they are upset, angry, or in any way emotional. Feel free to download the picture above to your phone or print it off and stick it somewhere you will see it to remind you to try it out yourself. Let me know if you use it and how your family finds it. I am really glad I remembered to dig out this book as our house is no longer feeling like a war zone - and I am still only on Chapter 1! If the rest of the book is as helpful I will share those tips with you as well. 

* The Facebook Group above (Gentle Discipline Ireland) is a closed group and vets members carefully. If you would like to join you can send a request and they will be in touch before adding you to the group. It is a great resource if you are hoping to parent gently. 

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Book Review: The Birth House - Ami McKay

I love reading. When I was young I would read the back of a cereal box! I especially love reading fiction. However when my children came along it wasn’t really feasible for me to read a lot. When I read a good book I tend to disappear into it and get lost in that world. I don’t really want to talk to anyone or do anything except read that book. This doesn’t go well with being a mother! Kids need someone around lol. Over the last few years I have tended to read more non-fiction, especially around birth. I learn so much from these and as a huge plus, I don’t want to get lost in them, I am happy to read a few pages and then stop - much more suitable for my role as a parent. Nowadays, however, my kids are older and I do get more time to sit and read. So I am starting to read more fiction again.

So imagine my excitement when I found a book that was both fiction AND a birth book! Two of my passions in the one book. I had to get it. Thankfully my local library had a copy in their catalogue and I was able to order it in (I am based in Cork County and the joys of the library catalogue being online is that I have access to all the county library material and can order from any of them to pick up locally in Midleton. Even better I am so near the city that if the county don’t have it I can try theirs instead). 

This book had been recommended to me by a few people who thought I would enjoy it and they were right. It’s a really beautiful book, with a very interesting storyline. When I was at University I wrote a history dissseration on the medicalisation of childbirth and this story encompasses this topic. 

It is set in a rural village in Nova Scotia and the story centres around Dora Rare, who is taken under the wing of the local midwife Miss Babineau to become her apprentice around the time of the First World War. At the same time a local Doctor moves into the nearby town promising women a santised, pain free birth that could be controlled and set in a hospital environment (rather than in their own homes). The local women are tempted by this - they are told they will be put to sleep if they wish and wake up to a new baby. Of course this all comes at a price. The service is an expensive one and the community is not a wealthy one. There is also the issue of how childbirth is taken from the women themselves. As the midwife notes after one of the women is knocked out to have her baby ‘There was no moment of celebration at the end. She’s feeling left behind and unsure.’ (p.111)

But the book is more than just about birth, it’s a fascinating historical novel with the backdrop of the World War 1, the suffragette movement, and other historical events in Canada as well as outlining the lives of women back in this period. 

I loved the pace of the book,  the style of writing, the small dramas. It’s not an epic book or an epic tale, it’s a story about a small community and the people who live there, as well as the struggle between traditional and modern that was taking place all over the world at this time. It was great to see extended breastfeeding as the norm as well (as they talk about feeding their 2 years olds).

What I loved even more about the book is that on doing some research I found that the story was inspired by the house the author lived in. While pregnant on her second child she learned from neighbours in her community that the house she lived in had once been the midwives house and an actual birth house for women in the community. 

The characters are all well written and I found myself getting lost in the story. I loved the way the women’s friendships were depicted, that strength that can come from women banding together to look out for each other - especially in an era where their actual power was limited and men held sway. 

For me of course the most interesting aspect was the battle between the new, modern doctor and the old, traditional midwife. As noted above I wrote my History dissertation in college on this topic and it was really interesting for me to see this written as a fictional account. For this is how it played out. Midwives were dismissed as lazy, drunk, incompetent and outdated, while obstetrics was hailed as superior, knowledgable, modern, scientific and the way forward. Why have women suffer the pain of childbirth when a doctor could take the pain away with morphine and Twilight sleep so that she wouldn’t have to remember a thing. As the Doctor himself argued to the women: 

‘’The latest methods of obstetrics - chloroform, ether, chloral, opium, morphine, the use of forceps - these things can make birth the joyful experience it was meant to be. I can even administer Twilight Sleep if desired.’ p. 132-133

Of course we know now with the evidence based research we have on hand today that it is midwife led care that leads to better outcomes for women. We are also seeing a (slow) shift to midwife led care with Domino Schemes around Ireland and our new Maternity Strategy acknowledging that for low risk women midwifery care is best and obstetric care better saved for those high risk women who need the skills of an obstetrician. 

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To finish - this book is well worth a read. It is an absorbing story that will keep your interest - even if you are not as passionate about birth as I am, the story itself is a fascinating one and you don’t have to be a doula, midwife or birth worker to enjoy it. 

Further reading:

Book Review: Catching Babies by Sheena Byrom

"If we say ‘delivering babies’ it implies that them midwife made it happen. It’s a birth not a delivery. Midwives inadertantely take the power away from women if you claim to have done all the work. It is the mother who has all the sweat and toil of labour, pushing out her baby with amazing endurance, for us to ‘catch’ at the end.”

— p.311

By Sheena Byrom

Catching Babies is the story of the career and life of Sheena Byrom who has worked as a midwife in the UK for almost 35 years. It is an easy book to read, very light and upbeat for the most part. Byrom does deal with some of the darker aspects of being a midwife such as the loss of babies, being involved in a litigation case and the bullying that can be experienced in the profession as the book progresses so it is not all sweet and pleasant. She also touches on birth trauma and how it affects women, as well as social issues such as poverty and drug addiction. These topics for me, while sometimes hard to read,  made the book even more interesting. Overall, the book and her story is a very positive book to read and I would like to meet her in real life as I loved her attitude towards birth and admired how she pushed for change in the care women received. Interspersed throughout is the story of her personal life, including details of her own births (she has four children) and the struggles of trying to juggle her career while caring for her family which I also enjoyed reading and could relate to. The book also highlights what a huge difference one committed person can make. 

“I was to learn that the job satisfaction in midwifery came from doing less to individuals and more with them”

Sheena began her midwifery career when episiotomies were the norm, food and drink were not allowed during labour and women had to lie on their back (sadly many of these policies are still the norm with birth in Ireland but things are improving). She was at the forefront of many changes throughout her career and seems to have been very innovative, using evidence based research to improve the care women received.  She was involved in the first ever water birth in her area for example, as well as helping to set up specialist midwifery posts to support teenagers who became pregnant and women who were using drugs. These posts have been very effective in helping to reduce the number of babies going to NICU after their birth and the number who end up in care (wouldn't it be great to have such posts in Ireland - Minister for Health please take note!). She also worked in a variety of settings such as a maternity home, a busy maternity hospital, in the community, and as part of a midwifery team.

There are some amazing stories such a forceps delivery which is performed with the woman standing up, and another where a woman (her daughter) is induced at 43 weeks and then goes home to continue with her plans for a home birth after receiving a drug to kick start her labour. Women have choices in the UK that Irish women don't and reading this book from an Irish perspective it is so clear to see how the Eight Amendment in our legislation (dealing with the right to life of the unborn) impacts the choices women have around their birth. In the United Kingdom decisions around their birth '...ultimately belongs to the women in question.' (p. 203) This is not something that happens here where women have been taken to court using Eight Amendment Legislation to enforce medical procedures on them during their pregnancy. 

Thoughout the book Sheena's love of midwifery and supporting women shines through. Time and time again her passion is evident as she supports women as they birth their babies, or to achieve the birth they hope for. The book ends with her retiring as a midwife from the NHS (but not before winning a lifetime achievement award from the Trust she worked for). However Sheena is still very active as a midwife and now works as a Freelance Midwifery Consultant. She has also written another book: Roar Behind the Silence (which is on my To Buy List for 2016). You can follow her on Twitter under @SagefemmeSB 

I think for anyone like myself who is interested in birth or who works in the area of childbirth, this is worth a read. I would recommend it to any doula, midwife or childbirth educator interested in normalising birth. It shows what a difference just one person can make. 

Finally, Sheena is coming to Ireland, something that I am very excited about. She will be giving the keynote speech at the ROAR Conference in Dublin on Friday 23rd September organised by the Irish Midwives Association. I will be there and am really looking forward to hearing Sheena speak in person (and hopefully pick up of a copy of the book on the day). Afaik there are still some tickets left - so I might see you there.